I can't order online ... I don't have a creditcard or Paypal. \: i just bathe him in squash baby food. He took a drink or two. He doesn't seem better. He's still lathargic.
You can get it at Petco Petsmart or EbayMunchkinsMommah said:It's says web only... I'm going to ask my mom if she can try to get it on Ebay, because i just remembered she gets some things from ebay.
Were can you but coco coir?
maggie3fan said:I have had babies in exactly the same condition that yours is in. You need to soak him in babyfood daily. I use carrots because they have more Vitamin A in them. So you soak daily in carrots. You also give him orally every day Calcionate from your Vet. By that I mean get liquid Calcionate from your vet and give it to him every day. He needs a mercury vapor bulb because they put out more UVB then the tubes do. You are not using a coil bulb are you? You have a tube I think, but if it is a coil get rid of it as they cause just what you are describing...
Offer him Spring Mix. That's cut up salad mixture in a box in the produce section. Most tortoises love Spring Mix. Cut it up for him that way they will eat it better. Your hot end should be 100 and your cool side should not be below 80 degrees. See if you can find radicchio...most torts cannot resist that. It's red and it tastes good. You can mostly find it in the high end grocery stores. Baytril causes an upset tummy so I would stop that and don't start it again. If he doesn't have a snotty nose he doesn't need baytril....now we've got the babyfood soaks, liquid calcium, good MVB, Spring Mix and a better substrate. That is what I do to bring them back from the brink. You need strong UVB to make the calcium work. That's an important part of this menu. So a good UVB bulb will help the Calcionate work. Please follow my suggestions and I promise you if you do he will live. But you have to do as I have suggested and do it daily, not just once in a while. And be sure to offer him Spring Mix and I'll bet he will eat it. Be sure to cut it up and mix it all around.
Anyhow this is what I have done to bring many, not just a few, but many...I have brought back many sick tortoises from the brink. So do all this and your Munchkin will live.
But don't hate me if he doesn't make it. I haven't seen him so I am just going on what I have read. But I have brought back may from a certain death by doing just what I have told you. But of course I am not a Vet just a person who takes care of the sick ones. I have 3 right now who are as you described and all with the soft transparent plastrons. I had 4 but one has already gotten hard and is active and eating. You have to do all of it and try really hard and don't give upMunchkinsMommah said:maggie3fan said:I have had babies in exactly the same condition that yours is in. You need to soak him in babyfood daily. I use carrots because they have more Vitamin A in them. So you soak daily in carrots. You also give him orally every day Calcionate from your Vet. By that I mean get liquid Calcionate from your vet and give it to him every day. He needs a mercury vapor bulb because they put out more UVB then the tubes do. You are not using a coil bulb are you? You have a tube I think, but if it is a coil get rid of it as they cause just what you are describing...
Offer him Spring Mix. That's cut up salad mixture in a box in the produce section. Most tortoises love Spring Mix. Cut it up for him that way they will eat it better. Your hot end should be 100 and your cool side should not be below 80 degrees. See if you can find radicchio...most torts cannot resist that. It's red and it tastes good. You can mostly find it in the high end grocery stores. Baytril causes an upset tummy so I would stop that and don't start it again. If he doesn't have a snotty nose he doesn't need baytril....now we've got the babyfood soaks, liquid calcium, good MVB, Spring Mix and a better substrate. That is what I do to bring them back from the brink. You need strong UVB to make the calcium work. That's an important part of this menu. So a good UVB bulb will help the Calcionate work. Please follow my suggestions and I promise you if you do he will live. But you have to do as I have suggested and do it daily, not just once in a while. And be sure to offer him Spring Mix and I'll bet he will eat it. Be sure to cut it up and mix it all around.
Anyhow this is what I have done to bring many, not just a few, but many...I have brought back many sick tortoises from the brink. So do all this and your Munchkin will live.
Maggie. You do not know how much i LOVE this post. I started crying. I thank you so much for giving me faith. I just ordered a MVB and im going to go buy carrot baby food and call my vet. you know what ? My vet thought he wouldnt make it . But now i've seen this, im so happy. I'll do everything. Thank you. SO MUUCH. ♥
maggie3fan said:But don't hate me if he doesn't make it. I haven't seen him so I am just going on what I have read. But I have brought back may from a certain death by doing just what I have told you. But of course I am not a Vet just a person who takes care of the sick ones. I have 3 right now who are as you described and all with the soft transparent plastrons. I had 4 but one has already gotten hard and is active and eating. You have to do all of it and try really hard and don't give upMunchkinsMommah said:maggie3fan said:I have had babies in exactly the same condition that yours is in. You need to soak him in babyfood daily. I use carrots because they have more Vitamin A in them. So you soak daily in carrots. You also give him orally every day Calcionate from your Vet. By that I mean get liquid Calcionate from your vet and give it to him every day. He needs a mercury vapor bulb because they put out more UVB then the tubes do. You are not using a coil bulb are you? You have a tube I think, but if it is a coil get rid of it as they cause just what you are describing...
Offer him Spring Mix. That's cut up salad mixture in a box in the produce section. Most tortoises love Spring Mix. Cut it up for him that way they will eat it better. Your hot end should be 100 and your cool side should not be below 80 degrees. See if you can find radicchio...most torts cannot resist that. It's red and it tastes good. You can mostly find it in the high end grocery stores. Baytril causes an upset tummy so I would stop that and don't start it again. If he doesn't have a snotty nose he doesn't need baytril....now we've got the babyfood soaks, liquid calcium, good MVB, Spring Mix and a better substrate. That is what I do to bring them back from the brink. You need strong UVB to make the calcium work. That's an important part of this menu. So a good UVB bulb will help the Calcionate work. Please follow my suggestions and I promise you if you do he will live. But you have to do as I have suggested and do it daily, not just once in a while. And be sure to offer him Spring Mix and I'll bet he will eat it. Be sure to cut it up and mix it all around.
Anyhow this is what I have done to bring many, not just a few, but many...I have brought back many sick tortoises from the brink. So do all this and your Munchkin will live.
Maggie. You do not know how much i LOVE this post. I started crying. I thank you so much for giving me faith. I just ordered a MVB and im going to go buy carrot baby food and call my vet. you know what ? My vet thought he wouldnt make it . But now i've seen this, im so happy. I'll do everything. Thank you. SO MUUCH. ♥
MunchkinsMommah said:maggie3fan said:But don't hate me if he doesn't make it. I haven't seen him so I am just going on what I have read. But I have brought back may from a certain death by doing just what I have told you. But of course I am not a Vet just a person who takes care of the sick ones. I have 3 right now who are as you described and all with the soft transparent plastrons. I had 4 but one has already gotten hard and is active and eating. You have to do all of it and try really hard and don't give upMunchkinsMommah said:maggie3fan said:I have had babies in exactly the same condition that yours is in. You need to soak him in babyfood daily. I use carrots because they have more Vitamin A in them. So you soak daily in carrots. You also give him orally every day Calcionate from your Vet. By that I mean get liquid Calcionate from your vet and give it to him every day. He needs a mercury vapor bulb because they put out more UVB then the tubes do. You are not using a coil bulb are you? You have a tube I think, but if it is a coil get rid of it as they cause just what you are describing...
Offer him Spring Mix. That's cut up salad mixture in a box in the produce section. Most tortoises love Spring Mix. Cut it up for him that way they will eat it better. Your hot end should be 100 and your cool side should not be below 80 degrees. See if you can find radicchio...most torts cannot resist that. It's red and it tastes good. You can mostly find it in the high end grocery stores. Baytril causes an upset tummy so I would stop that and don't start it again. If he doesn't have a snotty nose he doesn't need baytril....now we've got the babyfood soaks, liquid calcium, good MVB, Spring Mix and a better substrate. That is what I do to bring them back from the brink. You need strong UVB to make the calcium work. That's an important part of this menu. So a good UVB bulb will help the Calcionate work. Please follow my suggestions and I promise you if you do he will live. But you have to do as I have suggested and do it daily, not just once in a while. And be sure to offer him Spring Mix and I'll bet he will eat it. Be sure to cut it up and mix it all around.
Anyhow this is what I have done to bring many, not just a few, but many...I have brought back many sick tortoises from the brink. So do all this and your Munchkin will live.
Maggie. You do not know how much i LOVE this post. I started crying. I thank you so much for giving me faith. I just ordered a MVB and im going to go buy carrot baby food and call my vet. you know what ? My vet thought he wouldnt make it . But now i've seen this, im so happy. I'll do everything. Thank you. SO MUUCH. ♥
I wont. And what do you do if they wont eat?
MunchkinsMommah said:I feel like this is my fault, like i didn't do enough?