Redfoot identification/ what is wrong with it?? Advice

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I went hiking in southern GA/SC state line. I know there are common gopher tortoises here. I think this is a redfoot we found on a trail, his/her shell is all white. They do burn the forest undergrowth around here to keep everything maintained is that what happened to this guy? I didn’t disturb him and I later realized this might have been a redfoot someone got rid of. Should I try to help him if I see him again? Or just leave him? What do you guys think?
 

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Your assessment of possible shell burn seems accurate to me. Try to contact a turtle rescue near you (Google or ask veterinarian offices), explain that it appears to have been burnt and ask what you should do.
 

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I went hiking in southern GA/SC state line. I know there are common gopher tortoises here. I think this is a redfoot we found on a trail, his/her shell is all white. They do burn the forest undergrowth around here to keep everything maintained is that what happened to this guy? I didn’t disturb him and I later realized this might have been a redfoot someone got rid of. Should I try to help him if I see him again? Or just leave him? What do you guys think?
Fire damage can do that, yes. There is no way of knowing if it has smoke damage to its lungs without a veterinary assessment, but the eyes are bright, nares look clear, and the skin appears not to have any open wounds. Did you see any head bobbing, or open mouth breathing?
 

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I went hiking in southern GA/SC state line. I know there are common gopher tortoises here. I think this is a redfoot we found on a trail, his/her shell is all white. They do burn the forest undergrowth around here to keep everything maintained is that what happened to this guy? I didn’t disturb him and I later realized this might have been a redfoot someone got rid of. Should I try to help him if I see him again? Or just leave him? What do you guys think?
That is an Eastern Box Turtle. Native to the area. And, yes, fire damage to the carapace. I has been in a burn. However, it does otherwise look good.
 

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I went hiking in southern GA/SC state line. I know there are common gopher tortoises here. I think this is a redfoot we found on a trail, his/her shell is all white. They do burn the forest undergrowth around here to keep everything maintained is that what happened to this guy? I didn’t disturb him and I later realized this might have been a redfoot someone got rid of. Should I try to help him if I see him again? Or just leave him? What do you guys think?
It is an Eastern Box Turtle as others have said. It looks perfectly fine except for the very old shell damage.

If you see it again, just leave it where it is and it will be fine on its own. Where you saw it is its own home range. If moved away from there, it would become disoriented and have trouble surviving.
 

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I went hiking in southern GA/SC state line. I know there are common gopher tortoises here. I think this is a redfoot we found on a trail, his/her shell is all white. They do burn the forest undergrowth around here to keep everything maintained is that what happened to this guy? I didn’t disturb him and I later realized this might have been a redfoot someone got rid of. Should I try to help him if I see him again? Or just leave him? What do you guys think?
That's an old Eastern Box Turtle, native and lovely to see. Could be 50 years old. Their shells get like that. Also a tortoise can't survive their shell being burned in a fire.
 

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That's an old Eastern Box Turtle, native and lovely to see. Could be 50 years old. Their shells get like that. Also a tortoise can't survive their shell being burned in a fire.
The agony they must go through boggles my mind, but a tortoise's ability to recovery from horrific shell injury is miraculous. We've managed to rescue many burned tortoises in the fires that have occurred around Port Elizabeth. The shells can grow back over time, but the scutes look different, almost like they have merged (melted). Smoke inhalation and damage to their respiratory system kills most.

My Cape Angulate, Burnie, lost 60% of her shell due to fire damage and it has grown back over time. I'll get some close ups and post.

 
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The agony they must go through boggles my mind, but a tortoise's ability to recovery from horrific shell injury is miraculous. We've managed to rescue many burned tortoises in the fires that have occurred around Port Elizabeth. The shells can grow back over time, but the scutes look different, almost like they have merged (melted). Smoke inhalation and damage to their respiratory system kills most.

My Cape Angulate, Burnie, lost 60% of her shell due to fire damage and it has grown back over time. I'll get some close ups and post.

Ok I should have specified, small American terrapins cannot. I'm guessing in those cases the tortoise was mostly burried and just the back end got heated up. Gopher tortoises here can survive like that too. But not in this op case of having the entire shell roasted.The grasslands fires in Africa are also much faster and not as hot as the forest fires here. I've personally experienced both.
 

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The agony they must go through boggles my mind, but a tortoise's ability to recovery from horrific shell injury is miraculous. We've managed to rescue many burned tortoises in the fires that have occurred around Port Elizabeth. The shells can grow back over time, but the scutes look different, almost like they have merged (melted). Smoke inhalation and damage to their respiratory system kills most.

My Cape Angulate, Burnie, lost 60% of her shell due to fire damage and it has grown back over time. I'll get some close ups and post.

Thank you for that amazing article! Please keep posting the updates as the shell changes, or anything else you discover.
 

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Agree with csweaver that's an old box turtle. I live on the GA SC state line near the coast. Every now and then we find an old one like that. Found one in a swamp years ago with a faded out shell, it was all pock marked like the surface of the moon as well. Love box turtles.
 

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The agony they must go through boggles my mind, but a tortoise's ability to recovery from horrific shell injury is miraculous. We've managed to rescue many burned tortoises in the fires that have occurred around Port Elizabeth. The shells can grow back over time, but the scutes look different, almost like they have merged (melted). Smoke inhalation and damage to their respiratory system kills most.

My Cape Angulate, Burnie, lost 60% of her shell due to fire damage and it has grown back over time. I'll get some close ups and post.

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Nice to see the healing that has taken place over time. How long has it been since the tortoise was burned and do you happen to have any "before healing" photos? If so, it would be interesting to see them as well.
I wish I had taken "before" photo's, sadly not. She's been in my care sixteen years now, but most of the shell recovery / colouration / keritinaisation occurred within the first three years. That black lumpy-looking part at the back took the longest to heal, she looked really bad there and lost two nails off her left hind paw.
 

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A wonderful example of why they have survived since the dinosaurs. You should get a gold star for keeping her as healthy as possible through this!

Tell us about the journey. Someone else can benefit from your knowledge and expertise.
 

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