upper respiratory tract infection and what tests to determine.

HMTXXT

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Yesterday when I was out, my internal electricity was cute but not the AC, my tortois wasn't in a room with an AC but the apartment get cold so fast. I was out for 4 hours, so I don't know when this happened, but when I arrived my tortois was cold. I placed her near a heating source but not directly, and prepared a hot bath for her to take after 30 minutes (I figured drastic changes of temperature might be harmful)
I kept going to see her every 30 minutes, but I noticed that she has a runny nose. Based on the internet tortoises having runny nose mean most probably upper respiratory tract infection, but I read that symptoms take 2 to 3 weeks to show. So what could cause a runny nose beside an upper respiratory tract infection and when I go to the vet what tests should I ask for? (I live in the middle east where vets are not experienced with reptiles at all, so I want to know exactly what to ask for.)
Today morning she had a runny nose with bubbles, so I know it's not a temporary thing.
Background info:
She is a greek tortoise aged between 4 to 8 months.
She has a soil bedding.
She has a 10.0 uvb bulb light, and a ceramic heating source.
This past week she ate: butternut squash, lamb lettuce, okra, lamb lettuce, red bell pepper, and lamb lettuce.
She is still eating normally and quite as active as she was.
 

HMTXXT

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Added note: I have called 10 vets, none of them have any test they can do to determine what type of infection she has, I don't know what to do, should I just go and give her a random medication?
That's how her nose looks like.
 

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Added note: I have called 10 vets, none of them have any test they can do to determine what type of infection she has, I don't know what to do, should I just go and give her a random medication?
That's how her nose looks like.
I have cleaned the enclosure, changed the padding, but her in a hotter room with the balcony door open (for extra humidity and hotness). Gave her a hot bath for 15 minute, making sure the water is not cooled. She didn't make any nastrul drool for 5 hours. Going to buy food with vitamin A and give her. I am keeping in eye on her but I need to know what else to do, especially since I noticed early on.
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Ihave realt with upper respiratory infections in my sulcata yearlings after they were exposed to colder then ideal temps.I didn't see any signs of the infection for one to two weeks after they refused to eat. I know this sound strange but I could tell they were sick by looking at there eyes, which didn't have that bright eyed clear look that my healthy torts have.I brought them to an exotic vet who diagnosed them only when she saw discharge from there nasal area.Im not sure if they have a test but she was not aware of one.She treated them with an injectable antibiotic ( Baytril) that had to be repeated every 72 hours for three total treatments.It was remarkable how well they responded even after the first injection.The infection cleared up and the torts recovered well.
I have also dealt with a vet several years ago that tried to treat a sick tort with oral doses of amoxicillin.I have found that oral dosing sick tots is near impossible and it seems to do more harm then good. Sadly I lost that tort.
A word of caution about Baytril : I have learned from post on this forum that there are times when torts can have a negative reaction to Baytril injections and could cause problems later on or even kill them. But it was very successful when we used it on my sick torts.
Not sure if that helps but I thought I would share this experience
 

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Ihave realt with upper respiratory infections in my sulcata yearlings after they were exposed to colder then ideal temps.I didn't see any signs of the infection for one to two weeks after they refused to eat. I know this sound strange but I could tell they were sick by looking at there eyes, which didn't have that bright eyed clear look that my healthy torts have.I brought them to an exotic vet who diagnosed them only when she saw discharge from there nasal area.Im not sure if they have a test but she was not aware of one.She treated them with an injectable antibiotic ( Baytril) that had to be repeated every 72 hours for three total treatments.It was remarkable how well they responded even after the first injection.The infection cleared up and the torts recovered well.
I have also dealt with a vet several years ago that tried to treat a sick tort with oral doses of amoxicillin.I have found that oral dosing sick tots is near impossible and it seems to do more harm then good. Sadly I lost that tort.
A word of caution about Baytril : I have learned from post on this forum that there are times when torts can have a negative reaction to Baytril injections and could cause problems later on or even kill them. But it was very successful when we used it on my sick torts.
Not sure if that helps but I thought I would share this experience
First of all: sorry for losing one of your tortoises, it is really a hard feeling I wish to never encounter.
Second: thank you so much for sharing your experience, even though it's a little different, but it gives me hope that my tortois might get better even without a specialised vet (my country doesn't have an exotic vet)
Also thank you for the warning, if the vet does actually have it I hope my tortois doesn't get sick of using it.
Really appreciate your help.
Note: I am asking for a test because I don't know if it's actually an upper respiratory tract infection, and if it's what caused it, a bacterial infection or fungal.
 

HMTXXT

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Ihave realt with upper respiratory infections in my sulcata yearlings after they were exposed to colder then ideal temps.I didn't see any signs of the infection for one to two weeks after they refused to eat. I know this sound strange but I could tell they were sick by looking at there eyes, which didn't have that bright eyed clear look that my healthy torts have.I brought them to an exotic vet who diagnosed them only when she saw discharge from there nasal area.Im not sure if they have a test but she was not aware of one.She treated them with an injectable antibiotic ( Baytril) that had to be repeated every 72 hours for three total treatments.It was remarkable how well they responded even after the first injection.The infection cleared up and the torts recovered well.
I have also dealt with a vet several years ago that tried to treat a sick tort with oral doses of amoxicillin.I have found that oral dosing sick tots is near impossible and it seems to do more harm then good. Sadly I lost that tort.
A word of caution about Baytril : I have learned from post on this forum that there are times when torts can have a negative reaction to Baytril injections and could cause problems later on or even kill them. But it was very successful when we used it on my sick torts.
Not sure if that helps but I thought I would share this experience
First of all: sorry for losing one of your tortoises, it is really a hard feeling I wish to never encounter.
Second: thank you so much for sharing your experience, even though it's a little different, but it gives me hope that my tortois might get better even without a specialised vet (my country doesn't have an exotic vet)
Also thank you for the warning, if the vet does actually have it I hope my tortois doesn't get sick of using it.
Really appreciate your help.
Note: I am asking for a test because I don't know if it's actually an upper respiratory tract infection, and if it's what caused it, a bacterial infection or fungal.
 

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Ihave realt with upper respiratory infections in my sulcata yearlings after they were exposed to colder then ideal temps.I didn't see any signs of the infection for one to two weeks after they refused to eat. I know this sound strange but I could tell they were sick by looking at there eyes, which didn't have that bright eyed clear look that my healthy torts have.I brought them to an exotic vet who diagnosed them only when she saw discharge from there nasal area.Im not sure if they have a test but she was not aware of one.She treated them with an injectable antibiotic ( Baytril) that had to be repeated every 72 hours for three total treatments.It was remarkable how well they responded even after the first injection.The infection cleared up and the torts recovered well.
I have also dealt with a vet several years ago that tried to treat a sick tort with oral doses of amoxicillin.I have found that oral dosing sick tots is near impossible and it seems to do more harm then good. Sadly I lost that tort.
A word of caution about Baytril : I have learned from post on this forum that there are times when torts can have a negative reaction to Baytril injections and could cause problems later on or even kill them. But it was very successful when we used it on my sick torts.
Not sure if that helps but I thought I would share this experience
this is the world wide internet ,i don't believe you can find 5 people who have legitimately had a tortoise die from a baytril injection ? if you can find anyone who has legitimately had a tortoise die from baytril it will be from anaphylaxis and have nothing to do with baytril other than an allergy .....
 

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Stress also causes nasal discharge and is often misconstrued as R.I.
 
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