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[Alex and the Redfoot]

ohh but If i use repashy lod (calcium+low d3) There is repashy calcium plus too (calcium+d3). But if i use repashy lod will oversupplement d3 happen? Because Since 3 months ago or 4 i dont remember,
there is no sunlight coming through the windows in my apartment so they didnt get sun. Or should i just buy Cuttlebonefish powder? But im scared they will get mbd because theres no d3 in the cuttlebonefish powder.

If they don't get any natural sunlight (e.g. you don't take them outside for 15-30 minutes daily), you will need a UVB lamp. Just D3 supplements are not enough.

With calcium powder overproviding D3 is less likely (usually D3 contents is not very high). Just try to stay within recommended daily amount of 5-10 IU per kilogram of your tortoise weight.

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Oh and i wanted to ask, I have 2 sulcata baby, one is 8cm, one is 5-6 cm? And i bought the mazuri Small ls one, And the pellet is too small for the 8cm sulcata, What if I give a bigger portion of pellets for the 8cm sulcata? Heres the pictureView attachment 383435See the pellet is too small

Yes, no problem. Portion of Mazuri depends on tortoise weight.

 

[lovesulcata]

Yes, no problem. Portion of Mazuri depends on tortoise weight.

Oh ok but ever since i change to mazuri, my tortoise doesn't produce urates. Is that normal? But he still eats well. When do baby sulcatas usually produce urates?

 

[lovesulcata]

Yes, no problem. Portion of Mazuri depends on tortoise weight.

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[Alex and the Redfoot]

Oh ok but ever since i change to mazuri, my tortoise doesn't produce urates. Is that normal? But he still eats well. When do baby sulcatas usually produce urates?

1. If protein intake is low and tortoise is well hydrated it won't pass urates (or will pass but just a little, toothpaste-like)
2. Low hydration switches on "water conservation" mode and this will result in passing hard gritty urates or, ultimately, in forming bladder stones. The more protein (plant protein in this case) tortoise consumes the more urates it will produce.

Correct humidity, temperatures, amount of exercise and diet are also contributing factors.

I wouldn't worry about urates just now.

 

[lovesulcata]

1. If protein intake is low and tortoise is well hydrated it won't pass urates (or will pass but just a little, toothpaste-like)
2. Low hydration switches on "water conservation" mode and this will result in passing hard gritty urates or, ultimately, in forming bladder stones. The more protein (plant protein in this case) tortoise consumes the more urates it will produce.

Correct humidity, temperatures, amount of exercise and diet are also contributing factors.

I wouldn't worry about urates just now.

for number 1 he hasn't produced urates that looks like toothpaste, so he completely doesn't produce anything since thursday. And i texted the doctor from the vet, He said If it don't produce urates in 1-2 weeks, i should xray the sulcata

for number 2, It means i should put waterdish?

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Yes, shallow water dish (e.g. clay saucer used to put under flower pots), large enough for tortoise to get into, should be always available. Fresh water should be replenished daily (or more often if possible).

 

[lovesulcata]

Yes, shallow water dish (e.g. clay saucer used to put under flower pots), large enough for tortoise to get into, should be always available. Fresh water should be replenished daily (or more often if possible).

Terracota? And my sulcata still didnt produce urates untill today but he still eats like normally, what should i do?

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Terracota? And my sulcata still didnt produce urates untill today but he still eats like normally, what should i do?

Yes, non-glazed terracotta saucer.
I would not worry about urates if you keep your tortoise hydrated (humidity + soaks + water dish) and control protein intake (no beans, alfalfa, peas, Mazuri only as food supplement etc.).

 

[lovesulcata]

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Yes, non-glazed terracotta saucer.
I would not worry about urates if you keep your tortoise hydrated (humidity + soaks + water dish) and control protein intake (no beans, alfalfa, peas, Mazuri only as food supplement etc.

Yes, non-glazed terracotta saucer.
I would not worry about urates if you keep your tortoise hydrated (humidity + soaks + water dish) and control protein intake (no beans, alfalfa, peas, Mazuri only as food supplement etc.).

whats the different of glazed and non glazed? The humidity in my cage is 40-50 only And Mazuri only 2 times a week

And do u know to out bladder stone from sulcata? my other sulcata has bladder stone in stomach.

 

[Maggie3fan]

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whats the different of glazed and non glazed? The humidity in my cage is 40-50 only And Mazuri only 2 times a week

And do u know to out bladder stone from sulcata? my other sulcata has bladder stone in stomach.

He actually cannot have a "bladder stone" in his stomach, (cuz then it would be a stomach stone)...His temp needs to be 85 degrees with 85-90% humidity
I have had a 9 month old Sulcata for 2 months, he has had gritty urates since I got him...if your guy is not passing urates, stop making trouble as you DO'T want urates...

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

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whats the different of glazed and non glazed? The humidity in my cage is 40-50 only And Mazuri only 2 times a week

And do u know to out bladder stone from sulcata? my other sulcata has bladder stone in stomach.

Glazed is painted and polished - is very smooth and slippery. Non-glazed is just clay - simple and safe.

 

[lovesulcata]

Glazed is painted and polished - is very smooth and slippery. Non-glazed is just clay - simple and safe.

Oh ok. I use coco husk as substrate now, But some of the peoples in torto forum said its not safe? What about forest bark? is that good?

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

Oh ok. I use coco husk as substrate now, But some of the peoples in torto forum said its not safe? What about forest bark? is that good?

I’d avoid ‘husk’ due to the fibres but ‘coir’ is fine forest floor/cypress mulch is fine to use too

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Oh ok. I use coco husk as substrate now, But some of the peoples in torto forum said its not safe? What about forest bark? is that good?

Yes, ExoTerra Forest Bark is a fir bark - fine to use.

 

[lovesulcata]

Yes, ExoTerra Forest Bark is a fir bark - fine to use.

Okay can u help choose which one should i buy?

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Okay can u help choose which one should i buy?
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Both Rep-Cal and ZooMed are good to use. I would get ZooMed Repti-Calcium with D3:
* it's the cheapest of all
* amount of D3 is 10 times lower than in Rep-Cal so risks of overdose are low

Also, you can get a cuttlefish bone (sold for the birds and they are cheap) and put it in the enclosure, so tortoise can get additional calcium if it wants to.

 

[lovesulcata]

Both Rep-Cal and ZooMed are good to use. I would get ZooMed Repti-Calcium with D3:
* it's the cheapest of all
* amount of D3 is 10 times lower than in Rep-Cal so risks of overdose are low

Also, you can get a cuttlefish bone (sold for the birds and they are cheap) and put it in the enclosure, so tortoise can get additional calcium if it

Both Rep-Cal and ZooMed are good to use. I would get ZooMed Repti-Calcium with D3:
* it's the cheapest of all
* amount of D3 is 10 times lower than in Rep-Cal so risks of overdose are low

Also, you can get a cuttlefish bone (sold for the birds and they are cheap) and put it in the enclosure, so tortoise can get additional calcium if it wants to.

Oh okay but if i use zoomed repti with d3, Can it helps to cure mbd? one of my sulcata’s shell is a bit soft, but it is still eating smoothly and it is 5-6cm in size

 

[Alex and the Redfoot]

Oh okay but if i use zoomed repti with d3, Can it helps to cure mbd? one of my sulcata’s shell is a bit soft, but it is still eating smoothly and it is 5-6cm in size

This can help if you underprovide UVB to your tortoise. D3 in food is not a replacement for sunshine or a good UVB lamp but has some positive effect.

MBD is not fully curable: when bones have grown deformed they won't regrow in the right shape but new growth will improve (5-6 cm sulcata has a lot of growth ahead) and bones will strengthen over time.

 

[lovesulcata]

This can help if you underprovide UVB to your tortoise. D3 in food is not a replacement for sunshine or a good UVB lamp but has some positive effect.

MBD is not fully curable: when bones have grown deformed they won't regrow in the right shape but new growth will improve (5-6 cm sulcata has a lot of growth ahead) and bones will strengthen over time.

ohh zoomed could help? So like uvb lamp n other cant replace sunshine ? Okay thank you