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Yvonne is so going to kick your butt later Jacqui... for going offtopic...
You like the new ID huh? Its true... i post... thats it thread dead!!!
You like the new ID huh? Its true... i post... thats it thread dead!!!
stells said:If... we can't go offtopic... shouldn't this whole thread be in off topic debates
As it isn't about tortoises lol
TylerStewart said:, but mods shouldn't even be able to post in there. Sometimes people just need a place to strech their legs.
Jacqui said:Wow! Hmmm trying to think of how to say something here to convey my thoughts. So by being a Mod we should get even further penalized?
TylerStewart said:Jacqui said:Wow! Hmmm trying to think of how to say something here to convey my thoughts. So by being a Mod we should get even further penalized?
Well, if you feel you are currently "penalized" because you're a mod, I'm sure you can step down Not suggesting it, just throwing that out there!
My point was that with no mods at all in there, it can remain an uncontrolled forum. Once mods are involved, they are again becoming biased, picking sides and passing what was supposed to be secret info to their siblings. If this proposed forum is supposed to be uncontrolled, why do mods need to be involved in it? Mods should be unbiased (which some clearly are not), uninvolved in disputes, and by posting anything at all in there, it cancels out that notion.
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Agreed. Wow Tyler that has to be a first for me and you, huh?
Candy said:Agreed. Wow Tyler that has to be a first for me and you, huh?
Fernando said:Whoa! I'm asleep for 8 hours and this is what happens!?
Sorry I'm so late in responding but in response to your question re: over spill & D'marcus' concerns about feelings being hurt.
@Jacqui - I don't believe over-spill would be a concern...if it DOES then I'm sure since the conversation is taking place outside of the "No holds barred" section, the moderators would have the authority that they have now. Delete/edit/move. I feel as though you guys would have LESS work to do and LESS concern with all the debates going on in this new section.
As a father myself, it is my responsibility to keep my child's eyes where they are supposed to be. To be honest there are FAR more provocative type adult websites that the kids have access to any day, any time. A kid can Google in a search bar and have access to the entire world if he/she wanted to. I don't think a Tortoise Website is nearly a threat to a kid as...let's say facebook.
@ D'Marcus. There is a lot of talk about how members should start acting like adults on this Forum, which of course, makes sense. If my feeling's were hurt in a thread that I know very well is non moderated...the first thing that I'd ask myself is "Why am I in here?"
It's like when my son plays around outside without his shoes and Daddy says "Eligh put your shoes on or you're going to get hurt!" he ignores my warning then stubs his toe...is he going to say "Daddy why didn't you tell me?!"?...because I have faith in my parenting skills he's not going to say a word and just cry...well maybe ask for a band-aid.
If anyone has a good idea on how we create a virtual band-aid I'd be open to suggestions. lol
dalano73 said:Example:
your boss (a forum member) is having issues at home (no holds barred section) and fighting with their spouse (another member), your boss is so frustrated that he/she can't leave those problems at home. So when they arrive to work, any employee (neutral members) that says anything your boss doesn't like will feels the anger they brought to work from home.
Az tortoise compound said:Wow...haven't checked in since I posted the original thought.....
Look at all the mod deletions on this thread!
I am not one to bash anybody but when opinions are given, I see nothing wrong in questioning where those opinions came from and what REAL, PERSONAL experience that person has.
Maybe I'm mistaken but it feels like we must take things on face value on these forums. If we ask for more info or dig deeper it ends up being "off topic" or "mean"
I know those questions can be asked through pm's and such but then the group doesn't learn only the individual.
Fernando said:dmmj said:Josh just posted a site announcement about the warning system would the waring system apply in such a section?
I would assume that something close to a physical threat of some sort, his warnings would apply if not immediate action. But as long as it's tortoise related or a topic the poster has agreed to debate on, I don't see a need for them.
Edna said:Fernando said:dmmj said:Josh just posted a site announcement about the warning system would the waring system apply in such a section?
I would assume that something close to a physical threat of some sort, his warnings would apply if not immediate action. But as long as it's tortoise related or a topic the poster has agreed to debate on, I don't see a need for them.
A restricted, unmoderated section sounds like a good idea on its surface. The people in there are those that meet the criteria and CHOOSE to be in there. OK. But what if the section is used to trash members who don't choose to be in there? Getting trashed behind closed doors is just as toxic as getting trashed in the public part of the forum.
onarock said:How about this. Two people are on the regular forum discussing whatever. The thread starts to get a bit heated. One of the participants says "lets take this to the no holds barred section if you or I want to continue in this fassion" The other member says "sure". Its like "lets step outside" type of thing. One of the two contacts a Moderator to get access to this area of the forum where they title a new thread and have at it. All the participants were either part of the old thread or read up to where it got heated and decided that they want to join the conversation. Moderators warn the ones involved to stay on topic and "keep it amongst yourselves" They check in from time to time like any other thread to see that non participants arent getting hammered. On the open forum thread it can state: The heated part of this thread has been moved to the no holds barred section anyone who wants to participate contact a mod. I vote that Fernando be kind of a mod in this section. He can monitor the comings and goings of the participants and allow or deny access. The other mods have enough to do.