are they old enough to know the gender yet?

BekahBear

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I have posted about these guys a few times now over the years. the last time I asked was august of last year. they have grown a couple inches since then.

I got them as yearlings. I was told they were born in July of 2011.

my question is...are they big and old enough to tell if they are boys or girls yet? if not, when do you think I will know for sure?

before you ask, don't worry, they are kept in separate outdoor enclosures.

I labeled the pictures to make it easier to tell them apart. #1 is named Kokopelli and #2 is named Kachina.
thanks in advance for the help :)



Koko1 Koko2 Koko3 Koko4 Kach1 Kach2 Kach3 Kach4
 

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that's my guess on them right now. they both look female to me but I know that sulcatas can look female if they are too small or young to show male characteristics yet. at what age/size do they really show their gender characteristics?
 

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that's my guess on them right now. they both look female to me but I know that sulcatas can look female if they are too small or young to show male characteristics yet. at what age/size do they really show their gender characteristics?
If they are boys, they'll be flashing within the next year probably. Some flash earlier. I think with Charlie, he was 5.
 

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I think female as well. If you are flashed or they lay eggs you will know for sure. That's pretty much the only way to get a guarantee.
 

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that's my guess on them right now. they both look female to me but I know that sulcatas can look female if they are too small or young to show male characteristics yet. at what age/size do they really show their gender characteristics?

I think they are two cute females.
 

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I've always used a rule of thumb of 16" and 16 lbs is when I feel comfortable " knowing" the sex of a sulcata unless they flash - which often happens way earlier. Otherwise I'm reluctant to be sure before then on a suspected female
 

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They are normally bigger at 5 years old, so we can normally tell for sure.

At only 12" both of those tails look female, but the anal scutes have not taken on the adult shape yet in either due to their size.

I agree with Mark's estimation here. I can't think of an example that I wasn't reasonably sure of by 16" long, regardless of age.

In any case, both of them are very nice looking tortoises. :)
 

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Beautiful animals you have here!!! :)
They look female to me, but I don't have sulcatas- I have Hermann's. So don't quote me! :p
 

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