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Reptiles had colour vision and mammals evolved from them, but due to the reptiles dominance during the day the tiny early mammals;for many millions of years became nocturnal in order to avoid most of the diurnal, sun-loving reptiles. Mammals existed by night and just about survived in the reptile dominated world but lost their colour vision as it's not necessary at night.
After the extinction of the dinosaurs (except for birds) and other groups of reptiles and the end of reptile dominance the mammals engaged in a rapid evolutionary expansion to occupy the niches left behind. There was a fierce competition with the birds which didn't evolve into such diverse forms, so finally lost out.
As the birds evolved, in parallel with them new groups of plants diversified and many had symbiotic relationships with birds. The birds ate the fruits, that the plants evolved to attract them, so that their seeds would be spread over the maximum possible area. Now, it's no good if the birds eat unripe fruits that are nasty tasting and have seeds not yet ready to germinate so colour coding evolved to signal to the birds when the fruits were ready (birds still having reptile colour vision). So fruits that are ripe are red, orange, yellow etc, but not usually green. Green means unripe and birds avoid them.
The mammals meanwhile remained with black and white vision, except for a few like dogs or cows that evolved a limited colour vision for their lifestyles, but lacing in some of the spectrum that we see and with fewer photo-receptors per area than we have so the definition is not great.
But the primates, as they evolved in the trees, became fruit eaters, and thus needed to evolve colour vision to see what was good to eat.
So, our colour vision is due to our ancestors having to know when fruit was ripe.
 

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Reptiles had colour vision and mammals evolved from them, but due to the reptiles dominance during the day the tiny early mammals;for many millions of years became nocturnal in order to avoid most of the diurnal, sun-loving reptiles. Mammals existed by night and just about survived in the reptile dominated world but lost their colour vision as it's not necessary at night.
After the extinction of the dinosaurs (except for birds) and other groups of reptiles and the end of reptile dominance the mammals engaged in a rapid evolutionary expansion to occupy the niches left behind. There was a fierce competition with the birds which didn't evolve into such diverse forms, so finally lost out.
As the birds evolved, in parallel with them new groups of plants diversified and many had symbiotic relationships with birds. The birds ate the fruits, that the plants evolved to attract them, so that their seeds would be spread over the maximum possible area. Now, it's no good if the birds eat unripe fruits that are nasty tasting and have seeds not yet ready to germinate so colour coding evolved to signal to the birds when the fruits were ready (birds still having reptile colour vision). So fruits that are ripe are red, orange, yellow etc, but not usually green. Green means unripe and birds avoid them.
The mammals meanwhile remained with black and white vision, except for a few like dogs or cows that evolved a limited colour vision for their lifestyles, but lacing in some of the spectrum that we see and with fewer photo-receptors per area than we have so the definition is not great.
But the primates, as they evolved in the trees, became fruit eaters, and thus needed to evolve colour vision to see what was good to eat.
So, our colour vision is due to our ancestors having to know when fruit was ripe.
What's this evolution that you speak of?
Don't you realize that the earth is only 6,000 years old? (Quoted from a teacher I had in high school.)
 

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What's this evolution that you speak of?
Don't you realize that the earth is only 6,000 years old? (Quoted from a teacher I had in high school.)
I am not going to dispute this. (because we are forbidden on this forum).
But I would say that many religious folk now accept the world is older, and that evolution has occurred, from the archetypes created by God or gods, even if they say that God guides these changes.
I've worked with Christian, Buddhist, Hindu and Muslim palaeontologists who can happily fit evolution into their belief systems.
If people won't acknowledge it or the age of the Earth, then that's fine, maybe they're right, but i'm happy with my own beliefs, as most people are. :)
Anyway, enough of this.;)
 

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I once read in a book about the amount of trees or vegetation that would have been required to create 1 gallon of gasoline. I don't remember the amount, but I remember being totally gobsmacked: it takes a LOT!!!!
Once we get warp drive, though, we won't need to worry. The lakes on Titan are liquid natural gas, so we can just go there and get what we need. Then again... once we have warp drive, I doubt we'll be basing our economy on petroleum any more.
 
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