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I would keep an eye on his urates to monitor his hydration and protein digestion. Soak him daily or every other day for now to combat the possible dehydration. It won't do harm.

I am not sure about what the vet means by this. Tortoises are grazers and food should be offered daily. There is an old myth about "Starve days" being necessary for tortoise digestion but it has been since debunked. I think @Tom might know more about this.
I offer him food every day. Prior to him starting to act weird (thus finding a vet), he was eating almost all his food, every day. Since the new year, he eats maybe every third day (a.k.a. significantly less than when I got him).
 

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Also, I'm not sure if it's a lot for him/his size, but he's lost 5 g over the last 10 days. For reference he's 4.5 inches long, and 5" wide (for the curved part of his shell), and 4" wide (using the plastron).
 

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I just wanted to update everyone. I got Crush's bloodwork back from the vet. Kept forgetting to post it over the weekend 😢

Crush's blood work results:
CBC (Complete Blood Count): Crush's CBC is largely unremarkable, which indicates that the skin infection is localized rather than systemic. This is excellent news!
Biochemistry:
Calcium: His calcium levels are mildly low. Since you’ve recently adopted him and are already providing the appropriate lighting and oral supplementation, I expect his levels to normalize within 3–4 months. We can plan to recheck his calcium during that time.
Uric Acid: There is a mild increase in his uric acid levels.
High uric acid levels, a condition called hyperuricemia, can indicate underlying issues such as:
Dehydration – Often due to inadequate water intake or environmental factors.
Kidney Dysfunction – Impaired kidney function can affect uric acid excretion.
Excessive Protein Intake – Overfeeding animal-based proteins can contribute to elevated levels.
If left unaddressed, chronic hyperuricemia can lead to gout, where uric acid crystals deposit in tissues, causing pain and inflammation.
In Crush's case, I believe this mild elevation is likely due to dehydration. To address this, I recommend soaking him daily and wetting his salads before offering them. These measures usually resolve mild elevations. We’ll recheck his levels during his next visit to ensure progress.
Additionally, remember that tortoises don’t need to eat every day. It’s okay if they skip up to three meals per week, as long as their weight remains stable. Weekly weight checks are ideal to monitor this.
This is mostly good and reasonable advice, except the feeding part. Tortoises are grazers and need to be able to eat every day. Sure they can survive days with no food, but is that good for them? I think not.
I offer him food every day. Prior to him starting to act weird (thus finding a vet), he was eating almost all his food, every day. Since the new year, he eats maybe every third day (a.k.a. significantly less than when I got him).
This is common in Russians and other temperate species that should be brumating this time of year. They recognize the lower temperatures, shorter days, and reduced light intensity, and it makes them want to shut down as they would in the wild. The fix is usually to warm things up, and increase light duration and intensity. Daily warm soaks often help with this too. In spite of our best efforts, some tortoises simply refuse to cooperate with our ideas and insist on brumation. More on this here:
 

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This is mostly good and reasonable advice, except the feeding part. Tortoises are grazers and need to be able to eat every day. Sure they can survive days with no food, but is that good for them? I think not.

This is common in Russians and other temperate species that should be brumating this time of year. They recognize the lower temperatures, shorter days, and reduced light intensity, and it makes them want to shut down as they would in the wild. The fix is usually to warm things up, and increase light duration and intensity. Daily warm soaks often help with this too. In spite of our best efforts, some tortoises simply refuse to cooperate with our ideas and insist on brumation. More on this here:
Is it not concerning that when I first got him, he was eating 80-90% of the food I offered him, and then experienced the sudden change? If it's ok, than I'm okay. Just want to make sure there's not something more going on that either the vet or I are not catching.
 

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Is it not concerning that when I first got him, he was eating 80-90% of the food I offered him, and then experienced the sudden change? If it's ok, than I'm okay. Just want to make sure there's not something more going on that either the vet or I are not catching.
This is your first winter with him isn’t it? He could possibly get like this each year, @Tom what do you think to the weight loss? Is it of any concern?
 

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This is your first winter with him isn’t it? He could possibly get like this each year, @Tom what do you think to the weight loss? Is it of any concern?
I've only had him since December 10th :/

And as I thought many times, his lack of activity/eating COULD be partial brumation behaviors, but it was a quite sudden change from one day to the next.
 

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Update on Crush's shell:

He is almost done with his shots for his wound (between tail and back right leg), and the wound is nearly fully healed.

HOWEVER, he has new and worsening areas on his shell.... I need help, feedback, and possible diagnoses from the community (because I've learned quickly on here, that most vets know a little, but not enough about tortoises).

Please note the areas on the top of shell were previously debrided by the vet to clear areas that were poorly healing, and supposedly to stimualte new and/or faster regrowth of the shell. Here are pictures from post debridement, further below are current pictures.
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Here you can see deep 'cuts' or channels inside the debrided area. And no, the area is not soft.
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Thank you, wanted to check because I've read that that only happens on the plastron, not the carapace
What you are seeing is dead bone. I can't say why there are so many areas of it, IE why the integrity of the scute keratin was breached to expose the underlying bone, but that bone is now dead.

Although unusual in Russians, the spots on the plastron could be from shell rot or possibly some type of abrasion. The ones on the carapace could be from excessive heat lamp exposure or abrasion.

I have seen a number of instances where new bone and scute keratin forms under the dead bone and eventually the dead bone just sloughs off leaving a healed area of new bone which is again covered by scute keratin. This takes quite a long time (a couple of years or more), so just keep the areas clean and keep the tortoise healthy and you may be pleasantly surprised one day.

If the areas appear to become worse, the athlete's foot cream application can't hurt anything and might help.
 

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What you are seeing is dead bone. I can't say why there are so many areas of it, IE why the integrity of the scute keratin was breached to expose the underlying bone, but that bone is now dead.

Although unusual in Russians, the spots on the plastron could be from shell rot or possibly some type of abrasion. The ones on the carapace could be from excessive heat lamp exposure or abrasion.

I have seen a number of instances where new bone and scute keratin forms under the dead bone and eventually the dead bone just sloughs off leaving a healed area of new bone which is again covered by scute keratin. This takes quite a long time (a couple of years or more), so just keep the areas clean and keep the tortoise healthy and you may be pleasantly surprised one day.

If the areas appear to become worse, the athlete's foot cream application can't hurt anything and might help.
Okay. Thank you for the WEALTH of information. Sincerely. As previously stated, the vet said a few things:

1) that his labs were abnormal
Exam - Biochemistry Chelonian (Terrestrial) - 336923 ( diagnostics )
AST 55 U/l ; Ca 7.4 mg/dl ; GLU 43 mg/dl ; TP 2.7 g/dl ; UA 4.3 mg/dl ; IP 3.3 mg/dl ; PCV 16% ; TS 2.9

2) to put Kopertox on his shell. I did some research and it's a horse medication for thrush. From being a registered Nurse, i know thrush is (for humans) a fungal infection, so I'm assuming would serve the same function as antifungal cream. But appears to have the added benefits of being water resistant.

What are your thoughts, if any, on the above two points??

Also, he basically lives under his basking lamp when he wakes up in the morning, no matter what temperature I change the ambient temperature in the enclosure to be. But the carapace damage was there when I got him. So is the lamp making it worse?
 

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Update on Crush's shell:

He is almost done with his shots for his wound (between tail and back right leg), and the wound is nearly fully healed.

HOWEVER, he has new and worsening areas on his shell.... I need help, feedback, and possible diagnoses from the community (because I've learned quickly on here, that most vets know a little, but not enough about tortoises).

Please note the areas on the top of shell were previously debrided by the vet to clear areas that were poorly healing, and supposedly to stimualte new and/or faster regrowth of the shell. Here are pictures from post debridement, further below are current pictures.
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Here you can see deep 'cuts' or channels inside the debrided area. And no, the area is not soft.
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Gosh I do kinda second Alex’s notion that its way out of my depth.. I’m personally with zovik though, you can see areas where it’s likely going to continue to flake off that top layer of keratin, I think this has been damage done long before under your care, I’m thinking it’s going to be one of those ‘it’ll look a whole lot worse before it gets better’ situations. I’m no expert by any means but I don’t personally think the carapace looks like rot, to me it looks like similar damage/abrasion, I could be wrong, but I’d be really surprised to see rot in a Russian, I don’t think athletes foot cream would necessarily hurt to try though.
 

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Gosh I do kinda second Alex’s notion that its way out of my depth.. I’m personally with zovik though, you can see areas where it’s likely going to continue to flake off that top layer of keratin, I think this has been damage done long before under your care, I’m thinking it’s going to be one of those ‘it’ll look a whole lot worse before it gets better’ situations. I’m no expert by any means but I don’t personally think the carapace looks like rot, to me it looks like similar damage/abrasion, I could be wrong, but I’d be really surprised to see rot in a Russian, I don’t think athletes foot cream would necessarily hurt to try though.
Please see reply I posted back to @zovick , right above your post, and share thoughts of you have any 🙏

If stylet got cream is better than the medicine the vet recommended, I'll go get it tonight 👍
 

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Please see reply I posted back to @zovick , right above your post, and share thoughts of you have any 🙏

If stylet got cream is better than the medicine the vet recommended, I'll go get it tonight 👍
I don’t have experience with that medication but it sounds like it could be worth trying

I’m definitely stumped on why he’s wanting to excessively bask if ambient temps are good, but constant basking definitely won’t be helping the healing process no😕I’m sorry I wish I had better advice for you here, I’m hoping Tom can have a better look at those labs for you
 
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