JDDV97
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Do you re dig the shells up or no ?
Controversial pet visit ?
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I am so deeply sorry for your loss..
I repeat what all the others said.
You were a great help to him in the end and did all you could.
He will stay on my prayers
I repeat what all the others said.
You were a great help to him in the end and did all you could.
He will stay on my prayers
JDDV97
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Thank youI am so deeply sorry for your loss..
I repeat what all the others said.
You were a great help to him in the end and did all you could.
He will stay on my prayers
, if you don’t mind me asking what do you do when you lose a turtle ?
Littleredfootbigredheart
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It depends what you feel happiest doing to honour them. Cremation is my preference but I know it can be expensive, so my next choice would be burial
i would disagree the cause of death is obvious....... it would take some serious effort to kill a tortoise through dehydration, first year desert tortoises have been shown to survive 16months without water...... their dehydration tolerance is pretty well documented and studied....... i've read necropsies on like a dozen tortoise that were known to have died after a prolonged drought, the most common finding was accumulated iron in the liver, and bladder stones , there was no mention of kidney disease, aside from one with gout......first year hatchlings survived a year long drought better than older juveniles , they attributed it to the egg yolk retained internally...... during a drought a desert tortoise can lose up to 40%of it's body water, and reduce it's metabolism by70-90%........
JDDV97
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Can failed breeder symptoms show months after purchase?
Littleredfootbigredheart
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Yes they can!
JDDV97
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I just buried him , next to my child good dog, so it’s nice they’re together . But I had him less than 2 months , maybe 5 weeks or so , it’s just he was active at the repltile show but slowly ate and moved less . Of course I wonder what if I took him to a vet sooner , what if I switched to arcadia lights sooner , what if I had green house sooner etc ,
Littleredfootbigredheart
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A leading factor in bladder stones forming in captive tortoises is dehydration, which in itself can kill them, so whilst dehydration isn’t necessarily the COD, the ill effects it can cause on starting a baby too dry is
Littleredfootbigredheart
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That’s sweet
Honestly if he wasn’t started properly he was unfortunately doomed from the moment you got him, whilst the perfect environment of course gives them the best chance, it’s still very slim, don’t beat yourself up
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JDDV97
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I should’ve known from the start. The seller was selling everything from spiders to baby wallabies to baby goats to chameleons to hedgehogs the turtles so I knew she didn’t specialize in anything.That’s sweet
Honestly if he wasn’t started properly he was unfortunately doomed from the moment you got him, whilst the perfect environment of course gives them the best chance, it’s still very slim, don’t beat yourself up
JDDV97
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at what age are tortoises pass the sensitive stage?
Littleredfootbigredheart
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Yeah that does sound a red flag, it’s unfortunate so many are just in it for the money
Littleredfootbigredheart
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I guess this could be up for debate, I’d personally say there’s less risk with a yearling, some would say 3+
my thought is yes, but i believe there is a better chance of what the breeder failed at being disease...... sorry to hear about your tortoise .......
there are many causes of bladder stones, not sure the leading cause is known??? i believe as Dustin said in a previous "breeder failure syndrome" post , disease, disease, disease......... from the papers i've read on tortoises dying from dehydration, it would take one heck of an effort, could be done , it just appears to me it would take animal cruelty type care to get it done, give them no place to hide no water and cook them ......... the studies are out there to be read......A leading factor in bladder stones forming in captive tortoises is dehydration, which in itself can kill them, so whilst dehydration isn’t necessarily the COD, the ill effects it can cause on starting a baby too dry is
Littleredfootbigredheart
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There are multiple causes for sure, but from observation of countless captive tortoises, most if not virtually all tortoises with bladder stones have been kept too dry or are dehydrated, so naturally it’s likely one of the leading factors.
I don’t think it’s necessarily dehydration when it comes to breeder failure syndrome, it’s more about the effects it causes from starting them too dry, I believe that’s what effects their kidneys and other organs, honestly Tom will probably be better answering to all this than me
Thank you
I would cry a lot but then I would ……
probably… I don’t think I can answer the question???? I am so lost
I … I… think I would cremate.
Then I would have him or her by my side so I could sleep at night.
I could look at the urn from time to time and think of a special time/moment we had together.
But if this is way too morbid for you I will agree with whatever you decide.
It HAS to be YOUR decision.
You don’t have to make it tomorrow but you do have to think of each scenario and what would you be most comfortable with doing in your case.
We will all be with you from now till forever
. so … Get to thinkin’.
Prayers for you
Keep asking questions if you need to too!
Buried next to your beloved doggie was best. You did the right thing.
Your right as well, they will be together now..
Your right as well, they will be together now..
