Driving

[mike taylor]

If you can some how get a judge sign a affidavit of truth stating you are a freeman of the USA traveling privately and get it notarized . Then carry it with you you can freely drive without a license . But good luck on that .

But in saying this you will have to say in that judges jurisdiction . It's truth not fiction you can do it . If you are willing to fight for it .

 

[mike taylor]

Googling doesn't do any good if you are just looking at what comes up. It's like 10 to 1 (or worse) of sites just copying and pasting the same out-of-context quotes to sites actually discussing it or based on fact.


http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/TN/htm/TN.521.htm

SUBCHAPTER B. GENERAL LICENSE REQUIREMENTS

Sec. 521.021. LICENSE REQUIRED. A person, other than a person expressly exempted under this chapter, may not operate a motor vehicle on a highway in this state unless the person holds a driver's license issued under this chapter.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.

I see what you are saying jay-z .You can read everything to benefit yourself . Each state can make laws or codes . But as the Constitution reads you don't need a licence to drive .

 

[jaizei]

What do you think a carriage is ? It's means of movement . Be it a horse a car or motorcycle . As the law is written it did not definite say a car it says carriage . Is the common man with a brain going to do this . Yes some idiot will try to get away with but our justice system is not always just . Most of the sovereign people don't have the money to take it past the city of jurisdiction let alone supreme court. The right to bear arms is being infringed on . Also they can't change what's written in the constitution but the can add needless laws that are passed and accepted by we the people without a fight .

What references 'carriage'? If you're going off of things you find on Google, they have a habit of citing cases that are old and have been either overruled or superseded by subsequent rulings, laws or amendments.

 

[jaizei]

I see what you are saying jay-z .You can read everything to benefit yourself . Each state can make laws or codes . But as the Constitution reads you don't need a licence to drive .

http://pseudolaw.com/right-to-travel-united-states

 

[mike taylor]

Thompson V.Smith 154 se 579.11 The supreme court in Washington D.C. ruled you don't have to have a licence to drive a vehicle. The laws states its what ever means of transportation . Horse and buggy ,carriages ,and automobiles 2003 .

 

[mike taylor]

What it boils down to is a legal argument . The we can keep trying to prove each other wrong . It's your right as a US citizen to drive a motor vehicle its not a privilege as they lead you to believe . You don't have to have one . You will have to fight for it but technically you don't .

 

[mike taylor]

You want to talk Roe vs Wade now ? Just pulling your chain . Just to let you know I really enjoy this .

 

[Maggie Cummings]

Googling doesn't do any good if you are just looking at what comes up. It's like 10 to 1 (or worse) of sites just copying and pasting the same out-of-context quotes to sites actually discussing it or based on fact.


http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/TN/htm/TN.521.htm

SUBCHAPTER B. GENERAL LICENSE REQUIREMENTS

Sec. 521.021. LICENSE REQUIRED. A person, other than a person expressly exempted under this chapter, may not operate a motor vehicle on a highway in this state unless the person holds a driver's license issued under this chapter.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.

Looks like just Texas to me. I know I was stopped several times a week as a truck driver in Texass, to check my "papers'. I constantly am pulled over by the Corvallis cops who no longer even ask for my license. I used to tell them I didn't have one, but that I had insurance. That worked for a while.

 

[mike taylor]

You were a truck driver so you had to have them . There's loopholes in every law . There's even loopholes in tax laws for Texans if you know where to find them . Something to do with being a sovereign state I have no idea on tax laws. I have a friend trying to not pay his taxes . He hasn't paid in two years . He has lost his house and a crap load of money trying to not pay . He is a smart dude but I thinks it would have been better just to pay them . He has a law suit to get his house back . I know it isn't going to workout to well for him . His life's mission is to stop paying taxes . I told him to move out of the US .haha

 

[jaizei]

Thompson V.Smith 154 se 579.11 View attachment 160427 The supreme court in Washington D.C. ruled you don't have to have a licence to drive a vehicle. The laws states its what ever means of transportation . Horse and buggy ,carriages ,and automobiles 2003 .

Thompson V Smith was covered in like my first post in this thread, the first link I posted. It is being taken out of context. The part they never quote specifically says that it may be regulated as long as it is done fairly and not arbitrarily.

 

[jaizei]

You were a truck driver so you had to have them . There's loopholes in every law . There's even loopholes in tax laws for Texans if you know where to find them . Something to do with being a sovereign state I have no idea on tax laws. I have a friend trying to not pay his taxes . He hasn't paid in two years . He has lost his house and a crap load of money trying to not pay . He is a smart dude but I thinks it would have been better just to pay them . He has a law suit to get his house back . I know it isn't going to workout to well for him . His life's mission is to stop paying taxes . I told him to move out of the US .haha

Maybe because those 'loopholes' are created from the same out of context quoting.

Talk to Wesley Snipes and get back to me about not paying taxes.

 

[mike taylor]

Nobody said I wasn't paying taxes . I know it is not going to work. I said so . I don't need Wesley snipes or you to tell me .

 

[Turtlepete]

Constitution Smoshtitution. The government of this country today regards it as a scrap of paper they can sidestep whenever they wish, as they have done time and time again. The core principles this country was founded on are fading away every day, since we as a society seem more than willing to trade our freedoms for "protection".

 

[DutchieAmanda]

Why would you go to court so you don't have to have a license? I've heard it's fairly simple to get one in the US (we have to take 20-50 hours lessons and a theoretic and practical exam; many people fail 1-3 times...). I'm just happy with this system, this means most people at least know the basics of rules and driving technique!

 

[mike taylor]

That's not the point . We have rights here is all I'm saying . You have the right to travel freely here . But that has been taken by laws . It is easy to get a licence here . But if you can navigate the laws there are loopholes where you can get away with not having one .

 

[mike taylor]

Constitution Smoshtitution. The government of this country today regards it as a scrap of paper they can sidestep whenever they wish, as they have done time and time again. The core principles this country was founded on are fading away every day, since we as a society seem more than willing to trade our freedoms for "protection".

Thank you ! You get it ! Freedoms are traded for protection . I need no protection from no man . I'm my own protector .

 

[jaizei]

Constitution Smoshtitution. The government of this country today regards it as a scrap of paper they can sidestep whenever they wish, as they have done time and time again. The core principles this country was founded on are fading away every day, since we as a society seem more than willing to trade our freedoms for "protection".

Thank you ! You get it ! Freedoms are traded for protection . I need no protection from no man . I'm my own protector .

We've been discussing facts - laws, etc. For the most part this thread has been about what the law is, not what it should be. If it goes that way, the thread may get closed for being political.

 

[DutchieAmanda]

That's not the point. We have rights here is all I'm saying.

Never mind, it is probably a US-thing us Europeans will not understand

 

[mike taylor]

It's hard not to talk laws with out the political aspects.

 

[jaizei]

That's not the point . We have rights here is all I'm saying . You have the right to travel freely here . But that has been taken by laws . It is easy to get a licence here . But if you can navigate the laws there are loopholes where you can get away with not having one .

I look forward to any loop hole you can find that says a license is not required to drive on a public road.