Isa said:Really nice post Kayti, I think that a vet is always an option wherever you live.
Unbelievable.....
Isa said:Really nice post Kayti, I think that a vet is always an option wherever you live.
Shelly said:Isa said:Really nice post Kayti, I think that a vet is always an option wherever you live.
Unbelievable.....
Meg90 said:I also think half of the people here don't know what freezing DOES. You freeze from the outside in. First your extremeties then the rest of your body. It is PAINFUL. Eventually the tissues farthest away like your toes and hands, and feet turns necrotic, and dead. The blood no longer flows there, and the nerves begin to die. Has anyone here ever had a severe case of frostbite? Ever see what fingers look like when they are frozen? Your body parts actually begin to die, and blood no longer flows there. They are literally black, and dead. It is NOT painless.
Drowning at BEST takes minutes. SO what if tortoises submerge their heads to drink. That does NOT mean that they know how to hold their breath. I don't know how that would make sense to anyone. They drink the way a human does, by pausing for breath.
emysemys said:I think this thread has pretty much run its course, don't you all? The original question was, "What is the best way to euthanize a badly injured tortoise or turtle if a vet is not an option? Does anybody know of a humane method that does not involve violence and gore?"
I think we've all given our opinions, strayed away from the original subject and gotten all of our feathers ruffled. Time to step back and either leave the thread or get back on course and offer a quiet suggestion.
stells said:I have been searching high and low on SW for a story on their of someones Redfoot that ended up in a very deep pond.... nobody knows how long it was there... but it came out of the situation alive and kicking... i so wish i could find the thread...
gummybearpoop said:We honestly do not know which is more painful for an animal because us humans all have different measures/penchants for pain.
emysemys said:gummybearpoop said:We honestly do not know which is more painful for an animal because us humans all have different measures/penchants for pain.
And in this same vein: Animals, whether mammal or reptile, can compartmentalize their pain and not feel it like us humans do. I've seen quite a few badly injured turtles that acted normally, trying to get away, running along the ground as if nothing were wrong with them, all the while I could see their heart beating through the hole chewed by a dog. We can't put our human feelings on an animal. They are much better at hiding pain than we are.
Meg90 said:That's a bunch of bulljunk about it not hurting to get frostbite. Have you ever been COLD?
In WI right now it is like 22F out and let me tell you walking SIX blocks to class makes my hands hurt like hell.
If you think it doesn't hurt to be frozen, then I dare you to fill a bucket with ice and put your hands in it. I wanna know how long you can keep them their before you feel pain.
dmmj said:Re: lobsters, there is study after study that shows that lobsters don't register pain when that happens, I know everyone talks about the lobster screaming when you boil it but that is just air escaping from it's shell. I am not saying to start eating lobster if you are against it, but they don't register pain like we do, has to do with the way their nervous system is, not as developed and stuff like that. reptiles on the other hand can feel pain, but I have seen turtle (RES) with missing limbs acting like nothing is wrong and healed I know if I lost a limb I would most likely bleed to death without a doctor's help. But remember I am a highlander so the only way to get rid of me is to cut off my head. There can be only one.