I have been confused by the whole F1, F2 generation thing for a while. The problem may be that tortoise breeders use it differently than geneticists.
As I understand it, it starts with the 'P Generation' (for 'parental generation'), which ideally is a 'genetically pure' generation- although in practice that is tricky.
F1 is their immediate off-spring ("Filial Generation #1), F2 is the offspring of that group, etc.
Ideally, F generations help us track genetic changes. The common biology class example is brown or blue eyes. As you recall, the genes for brown eyes are dominant, so if you have both genes, you have brown eyes. The code for this was B=brown eyes, b=blue eyes.
If you have a true brown-eyed parent (BB in the P generation) and a pure blue eye-eyed parent (bb in the P Generation), then it goes like this:
P Generation: BB x bb
F1- each of these kids gets one gene each from their parents, so they each have brown eyes and the map looks like this...
F1: Bb Bb Bb Bb
F2- if two of these brown-eyed kids mates (for the purposes of the theory), we get these four kids:
F2: BB Bb Bb bb
In F2, we have 3 brown-eyed kids and a blue-eyed kid. To map out the F3 generation, it depends on which two mate.
(For those who HAVE to know, it looks like this:
1x2 or 3= BB, BB, Bb, and Bb- all brown eyed.
2x3= looks like F2 generation again- BB Bb Bb bb
2 or 3x4= Bb, Bb, bb, and bb- two brown and two blue.
1x4= looks like F1 again- Bb Bb Bb Bb.)
This mapping is helpful when you are trying to make hydrid and crosses, but it seems that breeders mostly use it to track how far from the wild an animal is. Am I understanding that right?
If that is the case, then the wild, theoretically 'genetically pure' parents would be the P generation, their off-spring would be F1, etc. wouldn't they?
That is fine as far as it goes, but how does it track when you mix in breeders from another line? Especially an unknown line?
As I understand it, it starts with the 'P Generation' (for 'parental generation'), which ideally is a 'genetically pure' generation- although in practice that is tricky.
F1 is their immediate off-spring ("Filial Generation #1), F2 is the offspring of that group, etc.
Ideally, F generations help us track genetic changes. The common biology class example is brown or blue eyes. As you recall, the genes for brown eyes are dominant, so if you have both genes, you have brown eyes. The code for this was B=brown eyes, b=blue eyes.
If you have a true brown-eyed parent (BB in the P generation) and a pure blue eye-eyed parent (bb in the P Generation), then it goes like this:
P Generation: BB x bb
F1- each of these kids gets one gene each from their parents, so they each have brown eyes and the map looks like this...
F1: Bb Bb Bb Bb
F2- if two of these brown-eyed kids mates (for the purposes of the theory), we get these four kids:
F2: BB Bb Bb bb
In F2, we have 3 brown-eyed kids and a blue-eyed kid. To map out the F3 generation, it depends on which two mate.
(For those who HAVE to know, it looks like this:
1x2 or 3= BB, BB, Bb, and Bb- all brown eyed.
2x3= looks like F2 generation again- BB Bb Bb bb
2 or 3x4= Bb, Bb, bb, and bb- two brown and two blue.
1x4= looks like F1 again- Bb Bb Bb Bb.)
This mapping is helpful when you are trying to make hydrid and crosses, but it seems that breeders mostly use it to track how far from the wild an animal is. Am I understanding that right?
If that is the case, then the wild, theoretically 'genetically pure' parents would be the P generation, their off-spring would be F1, etc. wouldn't they?
That is fine as far as it goes, but how does it track when you mix in breeders from another line? Especially an unknown line?