POSSIBLE PYRAMIDING?

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Just make sure you line the hole you cut for your heat source with aluminum foil so you don't melt the plastic.
Thank you for pointing that out, so cut the hole then wrap the rough edges with foil and that'll be enough to prevent melting?
 

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Thank you for pointing that out, so cut the hole then wrap the rough edges with foil and that'll be enough to prevent melting?
Yep, exactly
 

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How did I not come across these during all my endless research, thanks I really appreciate this. Dl you own a lepoard? If so what's your reccomened Temps.
I don't, I have Redfoots but if I'm not mistaken care for leopards is similar to Sulcatas. I can send a shout out to some folks who can better answer your questions about leopards though. @Tom @wellington
 

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I don't, I have Redfoots but if I'm not mistaken care for leopards is similar to Sulcatas. I can send a shout out to some folks who can better answer your questions about leopards though. @Tom @wellington
Much appreciated, started a list of all I've learned so far and going shopping after work. I'm stoked to set him up a new bigger improved home.
 

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How many watts can this one handle?
The back of it says rated voltage 125v 60Hz
Max loading 8.3 amps 1000 watts
 
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I apologize as I haven't read everything but it seems you're looking into closed chamber. Maybe this will give you some ideas. I'm leaning towards bioactive closed chamber, have basking and uvb inside, with greenhouse plastic closed chamber and a plant led shining down. Just revamped it this weekend, see my other posts or message me if you'd like anymore info!IMG_20190127_010120_01.jpeg00000IMG_00000_BURST20190129173141557_COVER.jpegIMG_20190131_073540.jpeg
 

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How did I not come across these during all my endless research, thanks I really appreciate this. Dl you own a lepoard? If so what's your reccomened Temps.

For a young tortoise, since they are not acclimatised, no lower than 25°c, and no higher than 38°c. It’s better to keep it on the warmer more humid side to encourage feeding, I keep my own leopard at 34°c with access to constant water (tables do not hold humidity). So try to aim for the low to mid 30s. ☺️
 

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Which makes sense but it's a really small tank and my lights cover basically the entire top of the cage so I have no way to lid off without disrupting the lights. And I was nervous to put the glass under the heat bulb, thanks for the humidity box, something like this from Amazon should work right? Basically the bowls create humidity inside the box

Anything which can hold heat and humidity well can make a possible humidity box, if you have a plastic container at home you can cut a small entrance into it and that’s all you really need. ☺️ Humidity should be at 80% in this box and 50-60% outside the enclosure, but if you’re finding it hard to keep humidity I’d try encouraging your tortoise to investigate his humidity box. My own tortoise spends day in day out in his box because he enjoys the environment.
 

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Anything which can hold heat and humidity well can make a possible humidity box, if you have a plastic container at home you can cut a small entrance into it and that’s all you really need. ☺️ Humidity should be at 80% in this box and 50-60% outside the enclosure, but if you’re finding it hard to keep humidity I’d try encouraging your tortoise to investigate his humidity box. My own tortoise spends day in day out in his box because he enjoys the environment.
Awesome thank you very much!
 

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I apologize as I haven't read everything but it seems you're looking into closed chamber. Maybe this will give you some ideas. I'm leaning towards bioactive closed chamber, have basking and uvb inside, with greenhouse plastic closed chamber and a plant led shining down. Just revamped it this weekend, see my other posts or message me if you'd like anymore info!View attachment 263706View attachment 263707View attachment 263708
Whats the black tote under neath for? Also what bedding are you using I bought zoo meds cocnute substrate and found a tip to throw seeds in there looks like you have seeds growing as well?
 

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Whats the black tote under neath for? Also what bedding are you using I bought zoo meds cocnute substrate and found a tip to throw seeds in there looks like you have seeds growing as well?
The black tote underneath is the actual enclosure with the substrate and the Tortoise. They've got a mini green house built on top of that sealing in the moisture to keep the humidity high.
 

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Also you need more than just a humid hide and 50-60% humidity to grow a smooth tortoise generally. This is old outdated info that has pretty much been disproven on this forum. It's a lengthy read but

https://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/the-end-of-pyramiding.15137/

https://tortoiseforum.org/threads/how-to-raise-a-healthy-sulcata-or-leopard-version-2-0.79895/

Aim for at least 80% or higher for the first 1-2 years of growth.
I've read the 1st one , but in his end of pyramiding it's 10 yrs old and I can't find his updates and findings or conclusions there's so many comments and replies do you kno his finally conclusion
 

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I've read the 1st one , but in his end of pyramiding it's 10 yrs old and I can't find his updates and findings or conclusions there's so many comments and replies do you kno his finally conclusion
Basically High humidity 80% or more. Typically best done in a closed chamber
 

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I believe the cliff notes of the conclusion are "Pyramidding in tortoises is caused by growth in conditions that are too dry" :)

As @Toddrickfl1 said, 80% humidity seems to be the trick.
 

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I believe the cliff notes of the conclusion are "Pyramidding in tortoises is caused by growth in conditions that are too dry" :)

As @Toddrickfl1 said, 80% humidity seems to be the trick.
So should I keep a humidity gauge in his tank and in the hide box?
 

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