unitepariahs

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Hi folks,

Last spring, Clyde went through a period where he was extremely active, digging and running around his enclosure all day, yet stopped eating. Eventually he had watery eyes on and off and so the vet suspected respiratory infection and he was on antibiotics for a bit, and eventually went back to his normal eating habits.

This spring, he is doing the same thing!

He wakes up at like 7am, destroys his enclosure, digs holes in everything, tramples his plants, and is generally a nuisance. After a couple hours of this he takes a nap, digs again, then goes to bed around 3pm, sometimes getting back up in the afternoon. But despite all the activity he is barely eating.

The weather has been all over the place here lately, I'm wondering if this type of behaviour can sometimes just be because of the change of seasons? I don't want to rush to another vet visit and possibly unneeded meds if this is going to be an annual thing for him. So far his eyes are totally clear and there's no other signs of illness.

He's in a 3x5 open top wooden enclosure (upgrading to 4x8 next month), basking at 95 degrees, general temp around 70-80 depending on area, humidity around 50%. Lights are on 12 hours a day. UV strip light is working well. He gets weekly soaks. It's too cold to grow food for him currently so we are on a grocery greens special unfortunately, but I get in as much variety as I can.

Prior to me, he was in a really bad environment that caused some growth issues and the vet last year said that it was possible he had lingering health issues from his poor conditions and diet, or possibly some other sort of health condition from being likely wild caught.

Would appreciate any insight!
 

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The enclosure is much too small, a minimum of a 4x8 is needed and much bigger is better.
What are the temps, basking? over all? night? How much lighting is there?
Doesn't sound like a vet is needed and wasn't needed the first time and the vet doesn't know what they are doing with tortoises or they wouldn't have given antibiotics the first time
Be sure to read the care and housing, lighting etc care sheet for Russians and make needed adjustments.
This time of year, spring and even sometimes in the fall, they can get like this because the weather is so up and down. But getting him the correct care, housing, lighting and temps should help a lot
 

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The enclosure is much too small, a minimum of a 4x8 is needed and much bigger is better.
What are the temps, basking? over all? night? How much lighting is there?
Doesn't sound like a vet is needed and wasn't needed the first time and the vet doesn't know what they are doing with tortoises or they wouldn't have given antibiotics the first time
Be sure to read the care and housing, lighting etc care sheet for Russians and make needed adjustments.
This time of year, spring and even sometimes in the fall, they can get like this because the weather is so up and down. But getting him the correct care, housing, lighting and temps should help a lot
Thanks for the reply! All of the temps are in the post (basking around 95, ambient between 75-80) except night which is about 65-70. And his 4x8 enclosure is being built as we speak, like I said in the post he will have it next month thankfully!
 

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Hi folks,

Last spring, Clyde went through a period where he was extremely active, digging and running around his enclosure all day, yet stopped eating. Eventually he had watery eyes on and off and so the vet suspected respiratory infection and he was on antibiotics for a bit, and eventually went back to his normal eating habits.

This spring, he is doing the same thing!

He wakes up at like 7am, destroys his enclosure, digs holes in everything, tramples his plants, and is generally a nuisance. After a couple hours of this he takes a nap, digs again, then goes to bed around 3pm, sometimes getting back up in the afternoon. But despite all the activity he is barely eating.

The weather has been all over the place here lately, I'm wondering if this type of behaviour can sometimes just be because of the change of seasons? I don't want to rush to another vet visit and possibly unneeded meds if this is going to be an annual thing for him. So far his eyes are totally clear and there's no other signs of illness.

He's in a 3x5 open top wooden enclosure (upgrading to 4x8 next month), basking at 95 degrees, general temp around 70-80 depending on area, humidity around 50%. Lights are on 12 hours a day. UV strip light is working well. He gets weekly soaks. It's too cold to grow food for him currently so we are on a grocery greens special unfortunately, but I get in as much variety as I can.

Prior to me, he was in a really bad environment that caused some growth issues and the vet last year said that it was possible he had lingering health issues from his poor conditions and diet, or possibly some other sort of health condition from being likely wild caught.

Would appreciate any insight!
It's spring time. This is totally normal male behavior. It would be wired if he didn't do this. In the wild he would wander miles, fighting off any rivals, in search of a female, or multiple females.

Never go back to that vet again. Medicating a perfectly normal healthy animal because it wants to mate in spring time... That takes vet ignorance to a whole new level... You need to tell that vet so that he/she doesn't unnecessarily medicate any more healthy animals.
 

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It's spring time. This is totally normal male behavior. It would be wired if he didn't do this. In the wild he would wander miles, fighting off any rivals, in search of a female, or multiple females.

Never go back to that vet again. Medicating a perfectly normal healthy animal because it wants to mate in spring time... That takes vet ignorance to a whole new level... You need to tell that vet so that he/she doesn't unnecessarily medicate any more healthy animals.
Thank you. How long is it normal for them to not eat for during the spring? I will not go back to that vet!
 

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Thank you. How long is it normal for them to not eat for during the spring? I will not go back to that vet!
There are many variables that determine this. Each tortoise is different. Some don't do this at all, and some do it for weeks. Some do it intermittently.

The best course of action is to make sure all your housing and temperature parameters are correct for your species, make sure the tortoise is well hydrated through soaking, and keep offering the food.
 
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