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Its not big one. I'll buy something that is bigger and better than this as soon I find it. It has open roof. Not closed.

And I will also find something for their hiding place. Its too big as there is not much space for them. I made it by cutting bottle and wrap it till I get something for their hiding.View attachment 229478
You can still make it a closed enclosure. As all hatchlings need good humidty to help prevent pyramiding. You can use a shower curtain to do that. You also need a UVB light and a CHE (ceramic heat emitter).
 

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It looks quite dusty.
Soak it and keep it damp.
Pour water in and mix by hand and then pack it down, you'll need to keep doing this as it will dry out under your lights. It doesn't matter if the top is a bit dry but try to keep it moist but not wet under that.
Two torts?
 

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You can still make it a closed enclosure. As all hatchlings need good humidty to help prevent pyramiding. You can use a shower curtain to do that. You also need a UVB light and a CHE (ceramic heat emitter).
Ok. I'll get these. But here in Karachi. Humidity level is good. And I also take them to my gallery for sunlight.
 

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It looks quite dusty.
Soak it and keep it damp.
Pour water in and mix by hand and then pack it down, you'll need to keep doing this as it will dry out under your lights. It doesn't matter if the top is a bit dry but try to keep it moist but not wet under that.
Two torts?
I soak it and then put it back. Now its not dusty. I'll do it.

Two torts 1 of my cousin. He will take it back after 2 to 3 days.
 

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Carol, I wanted to pass on some information that my sleep doctor gave me.

She said that when sleep apnea goes on untreated for a period of time, it becomes a CARDIAC problem. This is because even though the periods of stopped breathing may be short, as the patient keeps having them, the carbon dioxide in their system rises. That triggers hormone responses that the body uses when it's under attack or has been harmed. Some of the most important hormones that get triggered are the ones that cause blood to clot more easily (The body's logic is apparently If you've been injured, you'd want your blood to clot instead of bleeding to death through the injury). This MAY be the reason that the majority of heart attacks happen very early in the morning: the person has undetected or untreated sleep apnea and all the "alarm" hormones that have been inappropriately activated at night for however long, finally caught up with them.

But some people can have sleep apnea for years and have no medical issues. My dad was a horrible snorer for MANY years. He was always sleepy in the late afternoon, so he would take a nap, and use sleeping pills to try and sleep at night. It was a HURRICANE that helped the problem come to light!!! After mom died, he went to live near one of my sisters who lives in south Florida (VERY near ED/ ZEROPILOT!!!).
Because my sister is a doctor at a local hospital, whenever a hurricane comes, any of the hospital staff who have signed up to be in the Shelter program at the hospital are allowed to bring their families to stay there for storm shelter. They sleep on cots and beds in the conference rooms and auditorium etc. And the hospital has lots of doctors available because they're staying with their families, so it's a win-win situation all around!!! The family was asleep in a conference room, except my teenage niece. She kept hearing dad snore, then he would stop breathing so long it frightened her and she would wake him up. My sister got him tested, and he has severe sleep apnea: he goes 90 seconds (Yes, :eek: a minute and a half ) without breathing!!!!!! CPAP controlled his sleep apnea and he will be 94 this summer!:)

My sister got herself tested and SHE has severe sleep apnea!
She called me and advised that I get tested because I had developed real problems with memory and concentration as well as being very sleepy in the afternoons. I also have severe sleep apnea.

Untreated sleep apnea is not just annoying or inconvenient, it can end up being very dangerous in the long run.
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That does sound like me. Thank you for the info. I will definitly need to be tested.
 

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1 of them is of my cousin. He will take it back within a week.
Tortoises are very territorial and need to feel secure in their enclosures.
Your tortoise needs its own space and to know it's its area and safe from intruders.
Also many Russian's are full of parasites and diseases. Putting two together can risk all sorts of contamination, sickness and even death. Though i expect these two came from the same hatch?
 

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Tortoises are very territorial and need to feel secure in their enclosures.
Your tortoise needs its own space and to know it's its area and safe from intruders.
Also many Russian's are full of parasites and diseases. Putting two together can risk all sorts of contamination, sickness and even death. Though i expect these two came from the same hatch?
Both are of same breed. But don't know about same hatch.
 

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Update on Jacques;

I hadn't heard from the vet's office (being Monday morning, I figured they were busy!) so I phoned them.
It turns out the doctor was assessing and floating Jacques when I called!
Although she's floating better, she's still front-heavy, so some of the infection hasn't resolved just yet.
But the more worrisome thing is that she's developing red spots on her skin. The tech said that he told her that could be the infection manifesting in the skin. I asked if it was a sign of sepsis, but she said he made no mention of sepsis.
Aside from that, she is still very alert and active, and behaving in a manner that is encouraging.

I told the tech EMPHATICALLY that there is NO RUSH for me to bring her home. I am happy to wait until the doctor feels absolutely SOLIDLY that Jacques is fully recovered or sufficiently recovered that he's VERY comfortable with her coming home.
 

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Ok. I'll get these. But here in Karachi. Humidity level is good. And I also take them to my gallery for sunlight.
Read the links that were posted for you elsewhere.
But as long as they get a couple of hours direct sunlight and the moist coco coir and soaks every couple of days, they should be fine.
Use a cheap, shallow terracotta plant saucer sunk into the substrate for the water bowl. it should be big enough for the tortoise to climb in and soak if it wants.
Put the food directly on the piece of tile you have there. That helps keep the little one's beak trimmed.
 

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Read the links that were posted for you elsewhere.
But as long as they get a couple of hours direct sunlight and the moist coco coir and soaks every couple of days, they should be fine.
Use a cheap, shallow terracotta plant saucer sunk into the substrate for the water bowl. it should be big enough for the tortoise to climb in and soak if it wants.
Put the food directly on the piece of tile you have there. That helps keep the little one's beak trimmed.
Thanks alot. I soak them too. Once a day for 10 to 15 mints. And put them on direct sunlight for 15 mints daily.
I'll find something better for water bowl.
 

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